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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:26 pm Post subject: Dedicated server queries |
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Hi Andrew
On the offchance that we should decide to upgrade to a dedicated server, can you let me know:
- what the lead time is for getting a server up and running?
- is it a single HD or a RAID mirror setup?
- do you operate any sort of server monitoring as part of your managed service?
Ta
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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Giles,
Assuming everything is in stock, lead time is usually less than a day.
It's a single HD, RAID solutions can be quoted if you desire such a setup.
In a sense, software is installed that will monitor key services and restart them if they get into difficulty, this software can be made to email you based on a lot of factors such as load, service issues etc
Hope that helps,
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, that's very helpful.
Would you recommend RAID? Does it make much difference to the cost? (Thinking of my other question/thread I guess the question is - the trade-off between RAID and backup ...)
If we wanted to be sure that everything was working we'd need to run some sort of external monitoring? Can you advise?
Ta
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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RAID is good, when it works... Again this depends on setup. Software RAID is clearly free, however you might prefer a hardware RAID solution. You will need an additional drive.
http://www.alertra.com/ is the industry standard monitoring service if you wanted a third party service to monitor your server.
Thanks,
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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We might require some advice on a good overall RAID/backup package. I imagine s/w RAID only protects against localised data error on the drive? Doesn't look very useful to me.
>alertra.com
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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It protects against hardware failure, not much else.
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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>protects against hardware failure
But presumably if the whole drive dies then it's not much help? i.e. not all disk hardwar failures covered? |
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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That's exactly what it is for? If one disk fails the other disk is there with all your data on it ready to become the main disk on the server...
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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| gpk wrote: | | Sorry I was talkig about the s/w RAID! |
So was I!
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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I've slightly lost the plot then
>s/w RAID is clearly free
implies that there isn't a 2nd drive (as that would cost extra) so there isn't another one there if the 1st drive fails !!?? _________________ http://www.alexoria.co.uk • Find New Business for Your Business |
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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Ahhh, I see where we're getting confused. Software RAID is free compared to hardware RAID, where you need to purchase a hardware RAID card. Both types (software/hardware) of RAID need a minimum two hard drives to operate RAID1.
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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RAID 101 *. Apologies for butting in, and I appreciate at least one of you is fully cognisant of all this, but I'm just itching to clock up my century post.
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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Ta Pete
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