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Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 1:33 pm Post subject: FormMail problems |
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Hi Andrew,
I am having problems with making FormMail work. FormMail.pl is configured and sits in my gbc.org.uk/cgi-bin and its owned by gbc and the permissions are 777 but still it can't be accesses by http://gbc.org.uk/cgi-bin/FormMail.pl (or the mail form at http://gbc.org.uk/email/webauthor.htm )
Did I read that there is another mail form program pre-installed on nethosted. If so, where can I find out about it please - or should I stick with FormMail as I have already got 4 mail form set ip to use this (which dont wok since I moved to nethosted - no critisism here)?
I can't use Edit Packages in WHM any longer, to see if gbi-bin has been enabled. Can you help in this as well please? _________________ Thanks,
Andy Wilson
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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Use our formail clone instead, it is available in the CGI Center of cPanel.
What happens when you try and edit a package?
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| wilsonpro |
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Nethosted reseller

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Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Andrew,
I will look for it.
The Edit Packages box displays none of my domains names. _________________ Thanks,
Andy Wilson
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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| wilsonpro wrote: |
The Edit Packages box displays none of my domains names. |
Do you mean it doesn't display your package? If so this is due to the hard drive problems, package definitions were lost. If you recreate the packages you'll be able to edit them again.
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| wilsonpro |
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Nethosted reseller

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Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Andrew, I am going to have a go at re-creating the definitions. Do I simply enter each account name and quota etc size and each will link to the apropriate account?
Re the FormMail clone, it appears to gave installed at http://gbc.org.uk/cgi-sys/FormMail.pl but the directory cgi-sys is not in my file system! Any hints please? _________________ Thanks,
Andy Wilson
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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| wilsonpro wrote: | Thanks Andrew, I am going to have a go at re-creating the definitions. Do I simply enter each account name and quota etc size and each will link to the apropriate account?
Re the FormMail clone, it appears to gave installed at http://gbc.org.uk/cgi-sys/FormMail.pl but the directory cgi-sys is not in my file system! Any hints please? |
Yes all will link fine.
Yes you can't edit the clone just use it as you would FormMail, if this is a major problem let me know.
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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As in Matt Wright original FormMail I presume need to edit the clone version of FormMail.pl with the refering domains, like:
@referers = ('gbc.org.uk', 'wilsonpro.co.uk');
othewise all domains could use FormMail to send webmails through - which is a security risk.
I have put the original Matt Wright FormMail in my cgi-bin and edited it the @referers line and the path to sendmail line, but still the errer message is:
You don't have permission to access /cgi-bin/ on this server.
Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
I hoe you can help please? _________________ Thanks,
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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Well the formmail clone is available to everyone, so there is no need for you to edit the referrers list. We make the same single copy of the script available to all users.
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Andrew, my mail form at
http://gbc.org.uk/email/webauthor.htm
contained the path
<FORM METHOD="POST" ACTION="http://gbc.org.uk/cgi-bin">
which is what the help file says it should be set up to (and it worked this way on my previous webhost) - but in Nethosted it gives the error message "File not found".
However when I added the filename to the end of the path, i.e.
<FORM METHOD="POST" ACTION="http://gbc.org.uk/cgi-bin/FormMail.cgi">
it worked a treat.
I recommend the original Matt Wright FormMail over the clone for two reasons:
1) The relative security of having to specify what domain names FormMail.pl will accept mail forms from.
2) The much more eligant "message sent" message - which says:
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Thank You For Filling Out This Form
Below is what you submitted to webauthor @xxxxxgbc.org.uk on Monday, May 23, 2005 at 00:15:36
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I am a happy bunny again - thanks.  _________________ Thanks,
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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Glad you're happy again!
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 7:30 am Post subject: |
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One last question on web form mails please - how do make emails sent from form mails on my sites secure? Is it as simple as changing http into https on the mail forms - see next line?
<FORM METHOD="POST" ACTION="http://gbc.org.uk/cgi-bin/FormMail.pl">
I suspect there is more to it. _________________ Thanks,
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 10:54 am Post subject: |
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Sure you can change the http to https but you'd need to buy and SSL certificate.
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Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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On my previous web host I used https withing the mail form, for secure form mail transmissions, but I didn't ever buy an SSL certificate. Does that mean some web hosts have an SSL certificate to cover all it's users?
Approx how much is it to buy an SSL certificate and do you have any reccomendations as to which one to go for please? _________________ Thanks,
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Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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Yes some hosts buy a shared certificate.
Try this !
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Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Andrew _________________ Thanks,
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